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	<title>Comments on: Stalin&#8217;s Deranged Vision of a Human-Ape Super Race</title>
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		<title>By: tarzan</title>
		<link>http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/sciencetech/stalins-deranged-vision-human-ape-super-race/1257/comment-page-1#comment-56896</link>
		<dc:creator>tarzan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 11:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What does forced cross-species insemination have to do with Darwin? This isn&#039;t a mechanism of natural selection; or even evolution. Its just playing with genetics.
And Eugenics? I&#039;d hardly call the outcome of these experements a super-race. If anything it would be a creature of dim wits.
I think the author of this story is either a closet creationist with an agenda, or simply grabbing at hot-button words to stir up interest in the article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does forced cross-species insemination have to do with Darwin? This isn&#8217;t a mechanism of natural selection; or even evolution. Its just playing with genetics.<br />
And Eugenics? I&#8217;d hardly call the outcome of these experements a super-race. If anything it would be a creature of dim wits.<br />
I think the author of this story is either a closet creationist with an agenda, or simply grabbing at hot-button words to stir up interest in the article.</p>
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		<title>By: A. Non</title>
		<link>http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/sciencetech/stalins-deranged-vision-human-ape-super-race/1257/comment-page-1#comment-56858</link>
		<dc:creator>A. Non</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 07:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, nevermind, it wasn&#039;t...My apologies. Safari screwed up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, nevermind, it wasn&#8217;t&#8230;My apologies. Safari screwed up.</p>
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		<title>By: A. Non</title>
		<link>http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/sciencetech/stalins-deranged-vision-human-ape-super-race/1257/comment-page-1#comment-56857</link>
		<dc:creator>A. Non</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 07:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, OK, why was my comment deleted? I commented on previous comments and my view of the article. Read: It was relevant. Why are you people censoring?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, OK, why was my comment deleted? I commented on previous comments and my view of the article. Read: It was relevant. Why are you people censoring?</p>
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		<title>By: A. Non</title>
		<link>http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/sciencetech/stalins-deranged-vision-human-ape-super-race/1257/comment-page-1#comment-56807</link>
		<dc:creator>A. Non</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 04:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@GodFear: I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve ever encountered such a gross misinterpretation of evolution. Thank you for shaking my already limited faith in the capacities of human intelligence.

@Everyone Talking About Bush: I thought the original two comments were more directed to the fact that Bush is supposed to look like a monkey, not that he is like Stalin or Ilya Ivanov. I could be wrong, but that&#039;s how it read to me.

@The Article: Interesting tidbit of history, but the whole thing seems trumped up to try and make a sensationalist story. I doubt the Soviets had any diabolical plans to use ape-men workers to take over the world, especially without a basis in physical results. Nor do I think such experiments could have been as sinister or horrific as this article&#039;s tone implies. Inseminating chimps with human sperm would have no effect on the chimps, and the individuals involved in Ivanov&#039;s experiments would have been far less miserable than the ones used for experiments with diseases, as many still are today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@GodFear: I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve ever encountered such a gross misinterpretation of evolution. Thank you for shaking my already limited faith in the capacities of human intelligence.</p>
<p>@Everyone Talking About Bush: I thought the original two comments were more directed to the fact that Bush is supposed to look like a monkey, not that he is like Stalin or Ilya Ivanov. I could be wrong, but that&#8217;s how it read to me.</p>
<p>@The Article: Interesting tidbit of history, but the whole thing seems trumped up to try and make a sensationalist story. I doubt the Soviets had any diabolical plans to use ape-men workers to take over the world, especially without a basis in physical results. Nor do I think such experiments could have been as sinister or horrific as this article&#8217;s tone implies. Inseminating chimps with human sperm would have no effect on the chimps, and the individuals involved in Ivanov&#8217;s experiments would have been far less miserable than the ones used for experiments with diseases, as many still are today.</p>
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		<title>By: VBDon</title>
		<link>http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/sciencetech/stalins-deranged-vision-human-ape-super-race/1257/comment-page-1#comment-56793</link>
		<dc:creator>VBDon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 04:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;looks similiar to a certain president known for chest bumping other males of his species……&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Looks more like Stalin was a leader who wanted to introduce change!!!</description>
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<p>Looks more like Stalin was a leader who wanted to introduce change!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/sciencetech/stalins-deranged-vision-human-ape-super-race/1257/comment-page-1#comment-56790</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 03:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;However, along with communist utopian visions, the plan failed&lt;/blockquote&gt;
1) There&#039;s quite a difference between communist and utopian ideas
2) Communist ideas are very much alive

It&#039;s also important to remember that while this experiment that was allegedly Stalin&#039;s idea ( not that I&#039;m defending Stalin, but really ... ... ), Bush, Brown, Rudd, etc, etc are all pushing for exactly the same thing: a race of idiot workers. They way they achieve this is far more simple and effective than monkey-human hybrids. They simply starve the public education system of all funds.

This also raises the interesting question of the difference between humans and monkeys. There are practically no genetic differences. By far the biggest difference is that we&#039;ve developed spoken language, and then use this to educate our children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>However, along with communist utopian visions, the plan failed</p></blockquote>
<p>1) There&#8217;s quite a difference between communist and utopian ideas<br />
2) Communist ideas are very much alive</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also important to remember that while this experiment that was allegedly Stalin&#8217;s idea ( not that I&#8217;m defending Stalin, but really &#8230; &#8230; ), Bush, Brown, Rudd, etc, etc are all pushing for exactly the same thing: a race of idiot workers. They way they achieve this is far more simple and effective than monkey-human hybrids. They simply starve the public education system of all funds.</p>
<p>This also raises the interesting question of the difference between humans and monkeys. There are practically no genetic differences. By far the biggest difference is that we&#8217;ve developed spoken language, and then use this to educate our children.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 00:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A minor quibble: We already have &quot;human apes&quot; - all members of the family Homidiae, including humans, are apes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A minor quibble: We already have &#8220;human apes&#8221; &#8211; all members of the family Homidiae, including humans, are apes.</p>
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		<title>By: Links (6/6/08) &#171; WITMOT?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Links (6/6/08) &#171; WITMOT?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 00:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Stalin&#8217;s crazy attempt at recreating a breed of half-man/half-ape for crude industrial work. Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)The Week’s Links (5/20/08)This Week’s Links [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Stalin&#8217;s crazy attempt at recreating a breed of half-man/half-ape for crude industrial work. Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)The Week’s Links (5/20/08)This Week’s Links [...]</p>
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		<title>By: G</title>
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		<dc:creator>G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 23:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Europe owes it to Muslims for getting out of those Dark Ages...Imagine no soap?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Europe owes it to Muslims for getting out of those Dark Ages&#8230;Imagine no soap?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/sciencetech/stalins-deranged-vision-human-ape-super-race/1257/comment-page-1#comment-56645</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 20:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;indefinable men with bestial features, slaving away mindlessly on vast industrial zones.&quot;

That&#039;s South London.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;indefinable men with bestial features, slaving away mindlessly on vast industrial zones.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s South London.</p>
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