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	<title>Comments on: Low Energy Bulbs Can Cause Cancer, Along With Everything Else Ever Made.</title>
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	<description>for environmentalists who don't take themselves too seriously</description>
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		<title>By: brendan</title>
		<link>http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/sciencetech/light-bulbs-blamed-for-cancer/668/comment-page-1#comment-136586</link>
		<dc:creator>brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post is as silly as the spectrum group itself.  cfls are now avaialble in all color temperatures, including those that mimic incandescent &#039;soft white&#039; bulbs. light &#039;intensity&#039; is mesured in lumens, which are printed on the box, and a lower (dimmer) light can be used if desired.  does this group protesting cfls actually know ANYthing about lighting....for instance, have they been to their local hardware store?
 and, by the time the group organizes enough to matter (if ever), cfl&#039;s will be being phased out in favor of led&#039;s, cold cathode and other more efficient light technologies.
it&#039;s also true, as one commenter noted, that the government program is not a mandate.  
altogether, a non-story. the only thing i&#039;ve seen sillier lately is the post from Roland, below, completely misunderstanding the light/heat/efficiency issues involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post is as silly as the spectrum group itself.  cfls are now avaialble in all color temperatures, including those that mimic incandescent &#8217;soft white&#8217; bulbs. light &#8216;intensity&#8217; is mesured in lumens, which are printed on the box, and a lower (dimmer) light can be used if desired.  does this group protesting cfls actually know ANYthing about lighting&#8230;.for instance, have they been to their local hardware store?<br />
 and, by the time the group organizes enough to matter (if ever), cfl&#8217;s will be being phased out in favor of led&#8217;s, cold cathode and other more efficient light technologies.<br />
it&#8217;s also true, as one commenter noted, that the government program is not a mandate.<br />
altogether, a non-story. the only thing i&#8217;ve seen sillier lately is the post from Roland, below, completely misunderstanding the light/heat/efficiency issues involved.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
		<link>http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/sciencetech/light-bulbs-blamed-for-cancer/668/comment-page-1#comment-12260</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 15:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the record, the government&#039;s bulb ban is nothing of the sort, merely a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.greenpeace.org.uk/blog/climate/woolworths-makes-the-switch-inefficient-light-bulbs-out-in-2010-20070927&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;voluntary phase-out&lt;/a&gt; which the major retailers have signed up to. Incandescent bulbs will still be available in any shop or retailer that hasn&#039;t signed up. Fudge fudge fudge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record, the government&#8217;s bulb ban is nothing of the sort, merely a <a href="http://www.greenpeace.org.uk/blog/climate/woolworths-makes-the-switch-inefficient-light-bulbs-out-in-2010-20070927" rel="nofollow">voluntary phase-out</a> which the major retailers have signed up to. Incandescent bulbs will still be available in any shop or retailer that hasn&#8217;t signed up. Fudge fudge fudge.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/sciencetech/light-bulbs-blamed-for-cancer/668/comment-page-1#comment-12222</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 09:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;A piece of wire in a vacuum resisting electricity is very efficient. All the energy that is consumed by such a device will be turned into a) light and b) heat. There is no where else for the energy to go. Assuming that you require light indoors when it is dark, the chances are that it will be wintertime and you will also have the heating on. Therefore having a light on will reduce the energy used in your heating system. Therefore there is absolutely nothing to be gained from having low energy lighting in the winter.
In the summer it is a different matter. You don’t want heat - you just want light. Surely the truly environmental solution would be to get up when it gets light and to go to bed before it gets dark. You wouldn’t really need any lights then!
Outside, of course, it is different again. Any heat generated by the lights is simply heating the sky. Should we just not do what Sir Patrick Moore desires and turn off lighting outside?
Paying around with low energy lighting is just wasting effort which would be best spent saving the earth in a more beneficial way!
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Wait, how is that a device that is meant to produce light efficient if it&#039;s producing heat?  If we&#039;re using light bulbs to heat a home, how efficient is that compared regular heating?  In the winter time, you still have to heat your home and I doubt shaving off a degree or two would be much use. Besides, that heat isn&#039;t going to radiate throughout the house.  Feeling cold?  Why not put on a sweater instead of turning up the heat or using light bulbs to heat your house.

Do the topic of CFLs, I hope there&#039;s technology out there to help those people who can&#039;t stand them because incandescent lights aren&#039;t that much better in the end.  You use them more and here in Canada, we simply throw ours out in the garbage when they&#039;ve gone through a few months of use.  We don&#039;t even bother recycling the glass and metal.  They&#039;re still considered disposable like razors.  It&#039;s awesome the amount of garabe we dump into th arctic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>A piece of wire in a vacuum resisting electricity is very efficient. All the energy that is consumed by such a device will be turned into a) light and b) heat. There is no where else for the energy to go. Assuming that you require light indoors when it is dark, the chances are that it will be wintertime and you will also have the heating on. Therefore having a light on will reduce the energy used in your heating system. Therefore there is absolutely nothing to be gained from having low energy lighting in the winter.<br />
In the summer it is a different matter. You don’t want heat &#8211; you just want light. Surely the truly environmental solution would be to get up when it gets light and to go to bed before it gets dark. You wouldn’t really need any lights then!<br />
Outside, of course, it is different again. Any heat generated by the lights is simply heating the sky. Should we just not do what Sir Patrick Moore desires and turn off lighting outside?<br />
Paying around with low energy lighting is just wasting effort which would be best spent saving the earth in a more beneficial way!
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<p>Wait, how is that a device that is meant to produce light efficient if it&#8217;s producing heat?  If we&#8217;re using light bulbs to heat a home, how efficient is that compared regular heating?  In the winter time, you still have to heat your home and I doubt shaving off a degree or two would be much use. Besides, that heat isn&#8217;t going to radiate throughout the house.  Feeling cold?  Why not put on a sweater instead of turning up the heat or using light bulbs to heat your house.</p>
<p>Do the topic of CFLs, I hope there&#8217;s technology out there to help those people who can&#8217;t stand them because incandescent lights aren&#8217;t that much better in the end.  You use them more and here in Canada, we simply throw ours out in the garbage when they&#8217;ve gone through a few months of use.  We don&#8217;t even bother recycling the glass and metal.  They&#8217;re still considered disposable like razors.  It&#8217;s awesome the amount of garabe we dump into th arctic.</p>
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		<title>By: Roland</title>
		<link>http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/sciencetech/light-bulbs-blamed-for-cancer/668/comment-page-1#comment-12092</link>
		<dc:creator>Roland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 16:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A piece of wire in a vacuum resisting electricity is very efficient. All the energy that is consumed by such a device will be turned into a) light and b) heat. There is no where else for the energy to go. Assuming that you require light indoors when it is dark, the chances are that it will be wintertime and you will also have the heating on. Therefore having a light on will reduce the energy used in your heating system. Therefore there is absolutely nothing to be gained from having low energy lighting in the winter.

In the summer it is a different matter. You don&#039;t want heat - you just want light. Surely the truly environmental solution would be to get up when it gets light and to go to bed before it gets dark. You wouldn&#039;t really need any lights then!

Outside, of course, it is different again. Any heat generated by the lights is simply heating the sky. Should we just not do what Sir Patrick Moore desires and turn off lighting outside?

Paying around with low energy lighting is just wasting effort which would be best spent saving the earth in a more beneficial way!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A piece of wire in a vacuum resisting electricity is very efficient. All the energy that is consumed by such a device will be turned into a) light and b) heat. There is no where else for the energy to go. Assuming that you require light indoors when it is dark, the chances are that it will be wintertime and you will also have the heating on. Therefore having a light on will reduce the energy used in your heating system. Therefore there is absolutely nothing to be gained from having low energy lighting in the winter.</p>
<p>In the summer it is a different matter. You don&#8217;t want heat &#8211; you just want light. Surely the truly environmental solution would be to get up when it gets light and to go to bed before it gets dark. You wouldn&#8217;t really need any lights then!</p>
<p>Outside, of course, it is different again. Any heat generated by the lights is simply heating the sky. Should we just not do what Sir Patrick Moore desires and turn off lighting outside?</p>
<p>Paying around with low energy lighting is just wasting effort which would be best spent saving the earth in a more beneficial way!</p>
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		<title>By: harry</title>
		<link>http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/sciencetech/light-bulbs-blamed-for-cancer/668/comment-page-1#comment-12076</link>
		<dc:creator>harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 14:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe people with peculiar light sensitivities should be granted exceptions, although banning all types of incandescent light bulbs would make the prices skyrocket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe people with peculiar light sensitivities should be granted exceptions, although banning all types of incandescent light bulbs would make the prices skyrocket.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeannette Leduc</title>
		<link>http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/sciencetech/light-bulbs-blamed-for-cancer/668/comment-page-1#comment-12019</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeannette Leduc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 03:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I definitely agree that exceptions MUST be made for those with sensitivity to light.

I get headaches from florescent lights that are closer than 8 feet away which is hard to achieve in a home. I do get headaches from incandescent lights too but they only need to be at least 2 feet away to not give me a headache which is easily achieved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely agree that exceptions MUST be made for those with sensitivity to light.</p>
<p>I get headaches from florescent lights that are closer than 8 feet away which is hard to achieve in a home. I do get headaches from incandescent lights too but they only need to be at least 2 feet away to not give me a headache which is easily achieved.</p>
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