Environmental Graffiti

Evaine asked “at what point doe sthe soul enter the picture?”

What’s a soul? How much does it weigh? Have you ever seen one? Held it? Can it be measured and transplanted?

As long as you morons continue to blather on and on about fairytale myths, the chance for INTELLIGENT discourse cannot take place.

Stimcells are valueable because in lamens terms, they haven’t been given an instruction in what they’re supposed to become. You can have an organ without an entire human being by giving those stim cells the instructions into being made into that organ. You don’t need to create an entire human to get the organs. In fact, it wouldn’t be a viable way to make organs fast enough for a transplant, which is the whole reason why people are working on this. To save lives.

Religion shouldn’t be a factor in this. It shouldn’t be a factor in our government, or in our schools. It should only be a factor to those who believe in that religion.

Hitler was big on cloning..

Evaine asked “at what point doe sthe soul enter the picture?”
What’s a soul? How much does it weigh? Have you ever seen one? Held it? Can it be measured and transplanted?
As long as you morons continue to blather on and on about fairytale myths, the chance for INTELLIGENT discourse cannot take place.

Um… wow. You’re right, he should stop blathering. We should all just shut up and concede that only matter exists, and we’re all just cosmic accidents with no purpose and destined for non-existence after death.

Cheery outlook on life you’ve got there….

Guess all you Good Christian women out there will need to stop defoliating your skin now, huh?
I mean, after all, just think about all the potential human life you’re sloughing away! You simply must collect all your skin and create a human life out of each cell, or you’re a MURDERER just like the women who get abortions that you call murderers.
It’s the exact same thing.

Then you guys are going to have to stop using Rosie Palm and her five friends too.

Why does everyone freak out about clones, it’s the same thing as a twin. Do twins freak you out? They’re genetically the exact same person, yet they exist along side each other as two individuals because who you are isn’t defined only by your genetic code. Think of clones as twins that were born late.

I was thinking 6th day and the island when i read this. Sliders is so 1990’s, i cant remember much about the 90’s let alone details of sliders episodes.

Crikes the comments so far are frightening.

Anyway, I’m not sure I share your fear. If they could even germinate this egg cell, the chances for the offspring to be fatally flawed are way to high for anyone to want to attempt.

Why enact creepy sci-fi situations when you can simply grow a specific type of tissue for a given purpose. I’m sure it would be much more cost effective to grow transplant tissue then entire functioning humans for the purpose of dismemberment.

These things are clumps of fascinatingly mechanized matter. They’re not conscious, and they’ll help brings us further from suffering.

And in the face of all these goddamn nukes, why not?

Evaine asked “at what point doe sthe soul enter the picture?”
What’s a soul? How much does it weigh? Have you ever seen one? Held it? Can it be measured and transplanted?
As long as you morons continue to blather on and on about fairytale myths, the chance for INTELLIGENT discourse cannot take place.

So if you were to die a long and painful death from a horrible accident or disease, it wouldn’t matter because souls don’t exist?
EVERY HUMAN LIFE IS PRECIOUS, AND SHOULD NOT BE DESTROYED IN ANY WAY WHATSOEVER!
For humanity’s sake, I really hope this is a false claim.
And as for the part about morons and fairytale myths, try saying that right in the face of anyone who believes strongly in God. I dare you.

The basic premise is that the essential DNA structure provides instructions to cells in order for them to grow. We don’t know how as of yet, but once cloning becomes viable, and once we discover how DNA transmits instructions, it would then be possible to restructure the DNA in order to, say, send the instruction to create an arm, or a heart, or a liver, but nothing else.

That’s the premise anyways. I’d seriously doubt this story to be true before further evidence.

My question exactly! If one has a viable human embryo in the lab it seems logical that one would then further science by attempting to produce a viable human. I have trouble imagining how to create tissue and organs without the human, but I’m not a science major. I would like to understand that better though. The other question which has always peeked my curiosity is one that deals with the soul. At what point does the soul enter the picture? What is the soul and its origin as it applies to the subject of cloning specifically?
I did see the episode of Sliders and I’m with you! Creepy.

I am a Biology major. Soul is a spiritual thing, supernatural. Science cannot test anything supernatural. It has not relevance other than people always think about soul or other non-scientific related subjects when they talk about cutting edge science research like stem cells. The stem cells are the root of every special kind of cells in our body. Certain specific signals can turn particular stem cells into a specific cell like liver cells. This is only scientific research. Please do not mix these stuff with religion. Many man-made inventions are always lethal. They are useful but we still do not know how to make them more safe, for example the nuclear bomb, nuclear reactor, cars, airplanes.
So wait and see. You can’t stop it. It’s only a matter of time. The spirit and courage of these scientists can not be stopped what so ever.

INTELLIGENT discourse does not use name calling.

My question exactly! If one has a viable human embryo in the lab it seems logical that one would then further science by attempting to produce a viable human. I have trouble imagining how to create tissue and organs without the human, but I’m not a science major. I would like to understand that better though. The other question which has always peeked my curiosity is one that deals with the soul. At what point does the soul enter the picture? What is the soul and its origin as it applies to the subject of cloning specifically?
I did see the episode of Sliders and I’m with you! Creepy.

What soul..?

Don’t use the internet to make generalizations. Not alot of people think like that.

Also, skin cells and a viable human embryo are obviously two different things.

Don’t be an idiot.

There was a time when earth was flat, and whoever said its round, was killed.
Those who oppose all these technologies, would happily use it, if god forbid, they are terminally ill. They would prefer to lve more using any way, rather than dying and meeting the god.
No knowledge is wrong, until it is used for wrong purpose.
We are happier and have beter lives because there were some people, who ignored all this cry and went on inventing.

Evaine asked “at what point doe sthe soul enter the picture?”What’s a soul? How much does it weigh? Have you ever seen one? Held it? Can it be measured and transplanted?As long as you morons continue to blather on and on about fairytale myths, the chance for INTELLIGENT discourse cannot take place.

So if you were to die a long and painful death from a horrible accident or disease, it wouldn’t matter because souls don’t exist?EVERY HUMAN LIFE IS PRECIOUS, AND SHOULD NOT BE DESTROYED IN ANY WAY WHATSOEVER!For humanity’s sake, I really hope this is a false claim.And as for the part about morons and fairytale myths, try saying that right in the face of anyone who believes strongly in God. I dare you.

lol… you dare me? or what? I thought most religions were about peace and nonviolence and love thy neighbor. this is why religion shouldn’t be accepted in today’s day in age. It has been long forgotten what they stand for other than a scapegoat for accepting nonexistance. Its a little late to deny science and technology. If you feel otherwise… well… go walk off the edge of the world or build an arc and wait for the next big flood to drown us non-believers or better yet pray to your whoever that we stop hurting your feelings! :)

yea…. and in the huge number of yeras it would theoretically take to even legally get to that point, millions of people with horrific liife-changing diseases and losses will be completely cured. way to be a dick and not allow these people the access to modern technology they deserve because of a fear of something that doesn’t even exist. they ahve the technology to create poison too…. maybe they will fill all our food with poison oh no!!!!!! —-c’mon, be reasonable. weigh the pro’s and cons here people.

This is a big deal. Our technology has surpassed our humanity. I am in favor of treating illnesses but there is a line that you do not cross. It starts with stem cells. Next we will be creating clones of ourselves to harvest organs from. Yes every human life does matter, but what happens when someone makes a clone of you, and convinces it to commit a criminal act. All they have to do is destroy the clone, and all evidence of it, and you are left holding the bag. They don’t need your soul, when they have your clone. Video evidence is all they need to convict someone.

This is ridiculous… everyone assumes we would just jump to cloning whole humans after cloning organs. If all we need is organs why are people assuming we would go ahead and clone the whole thing?!?! such a waste that would be of time and money, and lets get real we are capitalists. Where’s the profit in all that wasted meat?

Another thing, how is growing an organ any different from growing a plant? Plants don’t scream bloody murder when they are harvested and neither would an organ as you picked it up off the petri dish. What you will hear is a thank you from the patient after they wake up cured and get to spend another holiday with their family.

These cells are the future to healthy beings. They are unspecified cells untill they recieve the messenger. And for the paranoids who think they’ll clone people to commit crimes..as noted above age factors will play a role. Not to mention the person would have to be willing to commit the crimes. When more information is available to the GP, people may become more understanding.

How are the human embryos not viable? You have not stated clearly about what will happen if we can actually clone embryos i think u have no clue in what you are talking about so…….BOO YA!