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	<description>for environmentalists who don't take themselves too seriously</description>
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		<title>By: K. Branker</title>
		<link>http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/sciencetech/3-stupidest-global-warming-solutions-of-the-year/216/comment-page-1#comment-236338</link>
		<dc:creator>K. Branker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 03:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its really good to realise what isn&#039;t really helping.

On another note, we should recognise those things that can be changed to reduce greenhouse gases. On a policy level, there is alot that governments and electricity producers can do.

In the US, it is suggested that the unavoidable customer charges in the electrical billing system are a barrier to electrical conservation and green house gas mitigation. The customer charge is fixed and is independent of the actual electricity consumption used. In trying to maximize their benefit from the unavoidable fixed customer charge, smaller electricity users are inclined to conserve less. The paper referenced explains the policy requirements and the change in the electrical rate required, along with its impacts. The results indicate that removing the fixed charges and increasing the electrical rate can be economical for the US, the electrical companies and the households and environmentally beneficial. The increased rate penalizes smaller users less and encourages smaller and larger users alike to conserve responsibly.

For more on this, see this article:
J. M. Pearce and Paul J. Harris, &quot;Reducing greenhouse gas emissions by inducing energy conservation and distributed generation from elimination of electric utility customer charges&quot;, Energy Policy, 35, pp. 6514-6525, 2007.[http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/B6V2W-4R008R9-2/2/1e692cc89cae024a6a4492e736848941]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its really good to realise what isn&#8217;t really helping.</p>
<p>On another note, we should recognise those things that can be changed to reduce greenhouse gases. On a policy level, there is alot that governments and electricity producers can do.</p>
<p>In the US, it is suggested that the unavoidable customer charges in the electrical billing system are a barrier to electrical conservation and green house gas mitigation. The customer charge is fixed and is independent of the actual electricity consumption used. In trying to maximize their benefit from the unavoidable fixed customer charge, smaller electricity users are inclined to conserve less. The paper referenced explains the policy requirements and the change in the electrical rate required, along with its impacts. The results indicate that removing the fixed charges and increasing the electrical rate can be economical for the US, the electrical companies and the households and environmentally beneficial. The increased rate penalizes smaller users less and encourages smaller and larger users alike to conserve responsibly.</p>
<p>For more on this, see this article:<br />
J. M. Pearce and Paul J. Harris, &#8220;Reducing greenhouse gas emissions by inducing energy conservation and distributed generation from elimination of electric utility customer charges&#8221;, Energy Policy, 35, pp. 6514-6525, 2007.[http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/B6V2W-4R008R9-2/2/1e692cc89cae024a6a4492e736848941]</p>
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		<title>By: sally</title>
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		<dc:creator>sally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 11:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should take a look at this. These guys seem to have found a
&lt;a href=&quot;http://southern-cross.webs.com/apps/blog/show/645450-global-warming-solution-y3000-plan-part-3a&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Global Warming Solutions&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should take a look at this. These guys seem to have found a<br />
<a href="http://southern-cross.webs.com/apps/blog/show/645450-global-warming-solution-y3000-plan-part-3a" rel="nofollow">Global Warming Solutions</a></p>
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		<title>By: Pierre Champagne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pierre Champagne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 19:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS.

Henderson&#039;s book (The 21st Century Environmental Revolution: A Comprehensive Strategy for Conservation, Global Warming, and the Environment) has just received a positive review from David McCorquodale, co-chair of Green Pages, the US Green Party quarterly (http://www.gp.org/greenpages/index.php).  It is a the publisher&#039;s website: http://wavesofthefuture.net

Tags: &lt;a href=&quot;http://wavesofthefuture.net/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;global warming solution&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://wavesofthefuture.net/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;eco-taxation strategies&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS.</p>
<p>Henderson&#8217;s book (The 21st Century Environmental Revolution: A Comprehensive Strategy for Conservation, Global Warming, and the Environment) has just received a positive review from David McCorquodale, co-chair of Green Pages, the US Green Party quarterly (<a href="http://www.gp.org/greenpages/index.php)" rel="nofollow">http://www.gp.org/greenpages/index.php)</a>.  It is a the publisher&#8217;s website: <a href="http://wavesofthefuture.net" rel="nofollow">http://wavesofthefuture.net</a></p>
<p>Tags: <a href="http://wavesofthefuture.net/" rel="nofollow">global warming solution</a>, <a href="http://wavesofthefuture.net/" rel="nofollow">eco-taxation strategies</a></p>
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		<title>By: Pierre Champagne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pierre Champagne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 19:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People interested in real solutions for global warming should check out the following book:

The 21st Century Environmental Revolution: A Comprehensive Strategy for Conservation, Global Warming, and the Environment.  By Mark C. Henderson.

It argues that large-scale solutions are our best hope for addressing issues such as climate change and outlines one such approach.  The author believes that it could address many environmental issues (climate change, carbon emissions, sustainability, contaminants, conservation, biofuels &amp; renewable energy,  etc.) at very little expense.  The approach is based on market forces and environmental taxation.

There is a lot of information at the publisher&#039;s website:
Waves of the Future
Website: http://wavesofthefuture.net

Tags: &lt;a href=&quot;http://wavesofthefuture.net/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;global warming&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://wavesofthefuture.net/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;environmental taxation&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People interested in real solutions for global warming should check out the following book:</p>
<p>The 21st Century Environmental Revolution: A Comprehensive Strategy for Conservation, Global Warming, and the Environment.  By Mark C. Henderson.</p>
<p>It argues that large-scale solutions are our best hope for addressing issues such as climate change and outlines one such approach.  The author believes that it could address many environmental issues (climate change, carbon emissions, sustainability, contaminants, conservation, biofuels &amp; renewable energy,  etc.) at very little expense.  The approach is based on market forces and environmental taxation.</p>
<p>There is a lot of information at the publisher&#8217;s website:<br />
Waves of the Future<br />
Website: <a href="http://wavesofthefuture.net" rel="nofollow">http://wavesofthefuture.net</a></p>
<p>Tags: <a href="http://wavesofthefuture.net/" rel="nofollow">global warming</a>, <a href="http://wavesofthefuture.net/" rel="nofollow">environmental taxation</a></p>
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		<title>By: aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol the matrix</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol the matrix</p>
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		<title>By: nisha</title>
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		<dc:creator>nisha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s realy very bad for us because by this all ice will melt and that&#039;s not good for us</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s realy very bad for us because by this all ice will melt and that&#8217;s not good for us</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Donatelli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Donatelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 16:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>+++TAKE ALL THE OIL OUT of Gaia++

or the motor and the heating and cooling complexities of the internal motor’s now empty cavities will change and spread the heat to new unforgiving surfaces causing collapse and flexing and swelling of the normally safe consistent, ore made structure , thus effecting the surrounding motors water flows.

Water and core Temperatures spike in spots with fast or slow motor rotation in unexpected areas due to cavity or thickness of spaces or water cycle inside water system due to season(climate) out side of motor(in that area).

-speed up motor with no oil to cool faster?
Or slow it down!! And add more oil.

Some body should REALLY Look at ground temperatures in the depleted oil areas and think maybe it is hot water there because there not oil there in addition to the normal equator heat. Maybe oil was formed there because it is a hot spot naturally . Maybe planet will cool around the same time oil reforms there again??? should we pump it out again at that time?

Kind of funny that the water in those areas is hot now and in adjacent areas the heat is up all compounding the tempreture in the the cab as the 2nd dary systems fail from the spikes in heat? We are looking at the water and saying speed it up!!to cool it , put more air on it make it more effcient water!! as coolant (algae)

Better put oil back I think.

Not take away cold water or put cold water on faster cycle that is now on slow cycle ???? or heat will go up and
seconday system will worsen!
Example Pump gas out of Indonesian shelf and it collapses making things out of balance across whole region.

No way to fix now better pump rest out? of remaining shelf?
Think put oil back in!! Cool Again!!

hot Water spikes go away with slower revs And oil back in not faster with no oil in

it just compounds to blow the radiator or soft point like the hose then blow the engine.
Then she’s all stopped for good.
4 sure this Gaia motor needs a good mechanic!! May even need heavier oil than before to reduce heat! Dan

I would like all seeking a solution out there to circulate this to every one of any importance on presenting it as one more thing we should be doing and looking at!!!!!!

P.S We are all stressing out about
methan releases , what happens when all the co2 gas they are pumping into oil cavities to stablize cardon credits comes back out in one day after pumping it down there for 20 years from now!!!!!!!! thats when you get a surprize!!boom gas instead of oil in hotspot@!!! read forever
Mb + 66 89 909 3178</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>+++TAKE ALL THE OIL OUT of Gaia++</p>
<p>or the motor and the heating and cooling complexities of the internal motor’s now empty cavities will change and spread the heat to new unforgiving surfaces causing collapse and flexing and swelling of the normally safe consistent, ore made structure , thus effecting the surrounding motors water flows.</p>
<p>Water and core Temperatures spike in spots with fast or slow motor rotation in unexpected areas due to cavity or thickness of spaces or water cycle inside water system due to season(climate) out side of motor(in that area).</p>
<p>-speed up motor with no oil to cool faster?<br />
Or slow it down!! And add more oil.</p>
<p>Some body should REALLY Look at ground temperatures in the depleted oil areas and think maybe it is hot water there because there not oil there in addition to the normal equator heat. Maybe oil was formed there because it is a hot spot naturally . Maybe planet will cool around the same time oil reforms there again??? should we pump it out again at that time?</p>
<p>Kind of funny that the water in those areas is hot now and in adjacent areas the heat is up all compounding the tempreture in the the cab as the 2nd dary systems fail from the spikes in heat? We are looking at the water and saying speed it up!!to cool it , put more air on it make it more effcient water!! as coolant (algae)</p>
<p>Better put oil back I think.</p>
<p>Not take away cold water or put cold water on faster cycle that is now on slow cycle ???? or heat will go up and<br />
seconday system will worsen!<br />
Example Pump gas out of Indonesian shelf and it collapses making things out of balance across whole region.</p>
<p>No way to fix now better pump rest out? of remaining shelf?<br />
Think put oil back in!! Cool Again!!</p>
<p>hot Water spikes go away with slower revs And oil back in not faster with no oil in</p>
<p>it just compounds to blow the radiator or soft point like the hose then blow the engine.<br />
Then she’s all stopped for good.<br />
4 sure this Gaia motor needs a good mechanic!! May even need heavier oil than before to reduce heat! Dan</p>
<p>I would like all seeking a solution out there to circulate this to every one of any importance on presenting it as one more thing we should be doing and looking at!!!!!!</p>
<p>P.S We are all stressing out about<br />
methan releases , what happens when all the co2 gas they are pumping into oil cavities to stablize cardon credits comes back out in one day after pumping it down there for 20 years from now!!!!!!!! thats when you get a surprize!!boom gas instead of oil in hotspot@!!! read forever<br />
Mb + 66 89 909 3178</p>
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		<title>By: Jose Reyes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jose Reyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 16:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fully enjoyed reading your article and look forward to future articles! However I feel that Global Warming is not as serious as everyone is making it seems. Change can be good</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fully enjoyed reading your article and look forward to future articles! However I feel that Global Warming is not as serious as everyone is making it seems. Change can be good</p>
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		<title>By: Karsten</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karsten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 19:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Karsten&lt;/strong&gt;

I realy enjoyed reading this site, i needed some info on this subject for my new study  and your post helped me out a lot thank you for that  </description>
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<p>I realy enjoyed reading this site, i needed some info on this subject for my new study  and your post helped me out a lot thank you for that</p>
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		<title>By: ecoTumble &#187; 3 Stupidest Global Warming Solutions of the Year</title>
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		<dc:creator>ecoTumble &#187; 3 Stupidest Global Warming Solutions of the Year</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 11:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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