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	<title>Comments on: The World&#8217;s 5 Most Venomous Species</title>
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		<title>By: Settsa</title>
		<link>http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/offbeat-news/the-worlds-5-most-venomous-species/697/comment-page-2#comment-268678</link>
		<dc:creator>Settsa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 12:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Venomous vs Poisonous.

Atrax robustus is venomous but if you licked it (assuming it didnt envenomate you) you would be fine. 

Poison arrow frog is poisonous, if it bit you, you would be fine, if you licked it...you would be in serious trouble. 

Venomous organisms have a venom delivery system (like a fang) that is used to deliver a toxic compund into your blood stream and (usually) cause ion channels like calcium and pottasium to either shut down completley or open up completley (either one is really bad news).    

Furthermore..there are two kinds of Venomous Animals. Active and Passive. Activley Venomous animals envenomate their prey and often have fangs...think snakes. 
Passivley Venomous animals envenomate in defense and usually have spines..think stone fish. 

Comparisons of venomness (for lack of a better word) are usually conducted on Rats and Mice and are called LD50s. 

According to LD50s Box Jelly Fish (Chorinex flekeri) are without a doubt the MOST venomous animal in the Ocean and certainly the most Dangerous sea creature in Tropical AsutralAsia in Summer. BUT these LD50s are conducted on Rats...not too many Rats I know inhabit the Tropical Australian Ocean.....

Atrax Robustus (Sydney Funnel Web)is &quot;NOT&quot; the most venomous spider according to LD50s on Rats, that nasty little Brazilian sucker is...

but Atrax robustus IS the MOST venomous spider according to LD50s on PRIMATES (monkeys)....(hmmm a monkey eating spider in sydney???) It just so happens that Humans are primates so if one was to get approval from an ethics board to do some LD50s on humans...which do you think would win?    

Australian Snakes:  The Inland Taipan is without a doubt the single most venomous snake on earth closely followed by Brown Snake and Coastal Taipan (mind you NO ONE has ever died from an Inland Taipan bite).  These three snakes have a venom that will cause consumptive coagulapthy...which means it will use up all an animal&#039;s Coagulation chemicals then all the blodd that isnt clotted will just drain out of every orifice...EVERY Orifice...but thats only in mammals (Just so happens Humans are mammals)

But all these animals have venoms designed to &quot;Kill&quot; thier prey...Boring!! Whats really - really - really cool are wasps that paralyse their prey, take it home lay eggs on it...some weeks to months their larvae hatches and eats the prey item (usually a spider of catepillar) ALIVE!!!! This is where the story behind Alien comes from! But think about that...they keep the prey alive for extende periods of time...the prey has no food, no water, but stays alive....HOW DOES IT DO IT?????   And if that wasn&#039;t cool enough there are other wasps that will come along, find the spider with the 1st wasps larvae in it and wasp #2 will lay its egg INSIDE wasp egg #1!!!!! OH MY GOD...HOW UNREAL IS THAT!!!! If God was real he must have been one twisted individual to come up with that!

Anyway sorry back to venoms.....extended paralysis is much harder and complicated to produce than death...     

But the real question that you guys should be asking is &quot;Why&quot; these animals are SO venomous??? Why does the Taipan need such an insane venom just to take out a couple of little rodent sized marsupials?      
 Well the most popular theory is that Australia has a low prey density therefor the snake needs to make a guarantee kill. Also the foraging Ecology of Australian Elapid snakes is different from American Vipers....Vipers are ambush predators who sit and wait until something sweet and juicy walks past before they pounce, bite once and let go, then they track down their dying prey item...Elapid snakes are active predators who hunt down their cute and furries for dinner....bite and hold on until said prey is dead.....so there is some talk that the Aussie snakes need a stronger venom to kill the prey as soon as possible to reduce harm to themselves....

But personally I dont agree with any of those theories...</description>
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<p>Atrax robustus is venomous but if you licked it (assuming it didnt envenomate you) you would be fine. </p>
<p>Poison arrow frog is poisonous, if it bit you, you would be fine, if you licked it&#8230;you would be in serious trouble. </p>
<p>Venomous organisms have a venom delivery system (like a fang) that is used to deliver a toxic compund into your blood stream and (usually) cause ion channels like calcium and pottasium to either shut down completley or open up completley (either one is really bad news).    </p>
<p>Furthermore..there are two kinds of Venomous Animals. Active and Passive. Activley Venomous animals envenomate their prey and often have fangs&#8230;think snakes.<br />
Passivley Venomous animals envenomate in defense and usually have spines..think stone fish. </p>
<p>Comparisons of venomness (for lack of a better word) are usually conducted on Rats and Mice and are called LD50s. </p>
<p>According to LD50s Box Jelly Fish (Chorinex flekeri) are without a doubt the MOST venomous animal in the Ocean and certainly the most Dangerous sea creature in Tropical AsutralAsia in Summer. BUT these LD50s are conducted on Rats&#8230;not too many Rats I know inhabit the Tropical Australian Ocean&#8230;..</p>
<p>Atrax Robustus (Sydney Funnel Web)is &#8220;NOT&#8221; the most venomous spider according to LD50s on Rats, that nasty little Brazilian sucker is&#8230;</p>
<p>but Atrax robustus IS the MOST venomous spider according to LD50s on PRIMATES (monkeys)&#8230;.(hmmm a monkey eating spider in sydney???) It just so happens that Humans are primates so if one was to get approval from an ethics board to do some LD50s on humans&#8230;which do you think would win?    </p>
<p>Australian Snakes:  The Inland Taipan is without a doubt the single most venomous snake on earth closely followed by Brown Snake and Coastal Taipan (mind you NO ONE has ever died from an Inland Taipan bite).  These three snakes have a venom that will cause consumptive coagulapthy&#8230;which means it will use up all an animal&#8217;s Coagulation chemicals then all the blodd that isnt clotted will just drain out of every orifice&#8230;EVERY Orifice&#8230;but thats only in mammals (Just so happens Humans are mammals)</p>
<p>But all these animals have venoms designed to &#8220;Kill&#8221; thier prey&#8230;Boring!! Whats really &#8211; really &#8211; really cool are wasps that paralyse their prey, take it home lay eggs on it&#8230;some weeks to months their larvae hatches and eats the prey item (usually a spider of catepillar) ALIVE!!!! This is where the story behind Alien comes from! But think about that&#8230;they keep the prey alive for extende periods of time&#8230;the prey has no food, no water, but stays alive&#8230;.HOW DOES IT DO IT?????   And if that wasn&#8217;t cool enough there are other wasps that will come along, find the spider with the 1st wasps larvae in it and wasp #2 will lay its egg INSIDE wasp egg #1!!!!! OH MY GOD&#8230;HOW UNREAL IS THAT!!!! If God was real he must have been one twisted individual to come up with that!</p>
<p>Anyway sorry back to venoms&#8230;..extended paralysis is much harder and complicated to produce than death&#8230;     </p>
<p>But the real question that you guys should be asking is &#8220;Why&#8221; these animals are SO venomous??? Why does the Taipan need such an insane venom just to take out a couple of little rodent sized marsupials?<br />
 Well the most popular theory is that Australia has a low prey density therefor the snake needs to make a guarantee kill. Also the foraging Ecology of Australian Elapid snakes is different from American Vipers&#8230;.Vipers are ambush predators who sit and wait until something sweet and juicy walks past before they pounce, bite once and let go, then they track down their dying prey item&#8230;Elapid snakes are active predators who hunt down their cute and furries for dinner&#8230;.bite and hold on until said prey is dead&#8230;..so there is some talk that the Aussie snakes need a stronger venom to kill the prey as soon as possible to reduce harm to themselves&#8230;.</p>
<p>But personally I dont agree with any of those theories&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: dhelzia</title>
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		<dc:creator>dhelzia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 02:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whatever they say</description>
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		<title>By: Callum</title>
		<link>http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/offbeat-news/the-worlds-5-most-venomous-species/697/comment-page-2#comment-251028</link>
		<dc:creator>Callum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 18:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This site is inaccurate. It says that the Inland Taipan is the most venomous snake in the world, when actually the Sea Snake is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This site is inaccurate. It says that the Inland Taipan is the most venomous snake in the world, when actually the Sea Snake is.</p>
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		<title>By: zaran</title>
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		<dc:creator>zaran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jason....THE ANSWER 2 UR QUESTION IZ THAT ITS BRIGHT BLUE RINGS R ITS WARNING SAYING&quot;DONT DARE TOUCH ME&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jason&#8230;.THE ANSWER 2 UR QUESTION IZ THAT ITS BRIGHT BLUE RINGS R ITS WARNING SAYING&#8221;DONT DARE TOUCH ME&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: zaran</title>
		<link>http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/offbeat-news/the-worlds-5-most-venomous-species/697/comment-page-2#comment-244439</link>
		<dc:creator>zaran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WELL....THE BOX JELLYFISH IS DEFINATELY THE MOST VENOMOUS CREATURE IN D WORLD AND THE POISON DART FROG IS D MOST POISONOUS ANIMAL IN D WORLD....THERE IS A DIFFERENCE  BETWEEN  POISONOUS AND VENOMOUS........CHECK D INTERNET 4 MORE INFORMATION</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WELL&#8230;.THE BOX JELLYFISH IS DEFINATELY THE MOST VENOMOUS CREATURE IN D WORLD AND THE POISON DART FROG IS D MOST POISONOUS ANIMAL IN D WORLD&#8230;.THERE IS A DIFFERENCE  BETWEEN  POISONOUS AND VENOMOUS&#8230;&#8230;..CHECK D INTERNET 4 MORE INFORMATION</p>
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		<title>By: jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 12:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think its a great list there is some kind of dabate on animals in the comments section above me, so heres my contribution, why is  the blue ring octopus beautiful but deadly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think its a great list there is some kind of dabate on animals in the comments section above me, so heres my contribution, why is  the blue ring octopus beautiful but deadly?</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the walnut: dude i live in Australia and actually the spider one is wrong the most deadly spider is the tree dwelling funnel web spider its venom is made to kill monkey like  primates (eg. humans) even though there is no monkey&#039;s in Australia so i guess we are &quot;the giant isle of death&quot; haha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the walnut: dude i live in Australia and actually the spider one is wrong the most deadly spider is the tree dwelling funnel web spider its venom is made to kill monkey like  primates (eg. humans) even though there is no monkey&#8217;s in Australia so i guess we are &#8220;the giant isle of death&#8221; haha</p>
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		<title>By: vickyann</title>
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		<dc:creator>vickyann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 12:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:] yea, what about the daddy-long-leg spider? I always herd that it was the most deadly spider in the world, but their fangs just couldnt bite throught the human skin? Is that true?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>:] yea, what about the daddy-long-leg spider? I always herd that it was the most deadly spider in the world, but their fangs just couldnt bite throught the human skin? Is that true?</p>
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		<title>By: kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 23:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>umm....ummm.. guys...guys... i&#039;m scared. oh&#039; mally help. biology sol is this thursday. do u guys want to help me? i&#039;m scared of these deadliest animals and sols. Coney dodo boney footki mishtey boto mondu kollah dooom doom (they mean in Hindi language that you guys are smart anc love me.  

            thanks, Predator-Prey relationship is between a predator is a carnivorous animal that hunts, kills, and eats other animal in order to survive and prey is an animals caught, killed, and eaten by another animal as food.    does that mean i could get eaten by an snake or what. chocolate vanilla strawberry blueberry love u bye</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>umm&#8230;.ummm.. guys&#8230;guys&#8230; i&#8217;m scared. oh&#8217; mally help. biology sol is this thursday. do u guys want to help me? i&#8217;m scared of these deadliest animals and sols. Coney dodo boney footki mishtey boto mondu kollah dooom doom (they mean in Hindi language that you guys are smart anc love me.  </p>
<p>            thanks, Predator-Prey relationship is between a predator is a carnivorous animal that hunts, kills, and eats other animal in order to survive and prey is an animals caught, killed, and eaten by another animal as food.    does that mean i could get eaten by an snake or what. chocolate vanilla strawberry blueberry love u bye</p>
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		<title>By: kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 22:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey how can u stay out from these deadliest animals?? Coney dod</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey how can u stay out from these deadliest animals?? Coney dod</p>
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