Bodyshock: The Amazing Story behind the 256 Year-Old Man
By Chris Ingham Brooke - Chief Graffiti Artist
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Li Ching-Yun. Image from The People’s Republic of China
According to the 1933 obituaries in both Time Magazine and the New York Times, Li Ching-Yun was reported to have buried 23 wives and fostered 180 descendants by the time he died at the age of 256.
Was he really that old? Could he have forgotten his own birthday or exaggerated his claim? Environmental Graffiti investigates.
The Secrets to an Interminable Life
“Keep a quiet heart, sit like a tortoise, walk sprightly like a pigeon and sleep like a dog.” These were the words of advice Li gave to Wu Pei-fu, the warlord, who took Li into his house to learn the secret of extremely long life.
Li maintained that inward calm and peace of mind were the secrets to incredible longevity. His diet after all, was mainly based on rice and wine.
From 0 to 256
Unsurprisingly, not much is known about Li Ching-Yun’s early life. We know he was born in the province of Szechwan in China, where he also died. We also know that by his tenth birthday, Ching-Yun was literate and had travelled to Kansu, Shansi, Tibet, Annam, Siam and Manchuria gathering herbs. After that, it gets a bit fuzzy…
Apparently, for over one hundred years, Li continued selling his own herbs and then subsequently sold herbs collected by others. He also (according to Time) had six-inch long fingernails on his right hand.
You might be thinking that he looked decrepit, shrivelled, leather-like and creepy, however sources at the time were astonished at his youthfulness. Was this suspect? Was Li Ching-Yun as old as he claimed he was, or was his birthday a clerical error or exaggeration?
Let’s take a brief look at both sides…
The Nine Lives of Li Ching-Yun
By his own admission he was born in 1736 and had lived 197 years. However, in 1930 a professor and dean at Minkuo University by the name of Wu Chung-chien, found records “proving” that Li was born in 1677. Records allegedly showed that the Imperial Chinese Government congratulated him on his 150th and 200th Birthdays.
So the question is, had he forgotten his own birthday? Was this even the same Li Ching-Yun?
Looking at all of this from a medical and documented perspective: Jeanne Louise Calment, a French woman who died in 1997 so far holds the title for the person who has roamed the earth the longest: 122 years, which is a phenomenal length of time.
That means, that if the records discovered by Wu Chung-chien were accurate, Li Ching-Yun’s age would surpass the official record by more than 130 years. Is this even medically possible?
The detail, which seems to prove both arguments and debunk them at the same time, is Li’s youthful appearance, noted in a 1928 article from the New York Times. Visually and physically, he appeared to look like a typical 60 year-old. Does this therefore signify a superhuman body capable of lasting one quarter of a millennium, or is the story of Li Ching-Yun based on a series of half-truths, lies or exaggerations?
Unfortunately, we may never know. You may draw your own logical conclusions.
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Comments
80 Responses to “Bodyshock: The Amazing Story behind the 256 Year-Old Man”
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Jimbo
Posted: May 3rd, 2008 at 7:59 pm1Reply to this comment.I hope this isn’t supposed to be taken seriously.
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yongke
Posted: May 4th, 2008 at 1:10 am2Reply to this comment.You know, at first, I thought I was reading the onion, then I realized I was on environmental graffiti; and this story is relevant because he probably passed enough gas during his long lifetime to cause global warning.
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Student
Posted: May 4th, 2008 at 1:29 am3Reply to this comment.A couple other things I have seen written about him:
- Died with his own decent set of teeth
- Believed in Garlic, Ginger, Ginseng, and Gotu-Kola for long life
- Would not eat Tropane containing foods (Tomato, Potato, Eggplant, Tobacco), nor any ‘root’ foods besides the couple above.
- Won some master herbalist award 3 times in a row in China. This contest happened once every 50 yearsTake with a grain of salt, this is too much ancient history to verify now.
to Jimbo - belief is a funny thing that makes a lot of people get out of bed early on a Sunday.
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Jim
Posted: May 4th, 2008 at 1:56 am4Reply to this comment.Whatever is the truth behind this story, the message behind this man’s life is clear to me. Live life and work hard. Live like its your last day, and if you’re right, you’re gonna live for a long time ;)
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T
Posted: May 4th, 2008 at 2:19 am5Reply to this comment.“Was he really that old? Could he have forgotten his own birthday or exaggerated his claim? Environmental Graffiti investigates.”
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“Does this therefore signify a superhuman body capable of lasting one quarter of a millennium, or is the story of Li Ching-Yun based on a series of half-truths, lies or exaggerations?
Unfortunately, we may never know. You may draw your own logical conclusions.”
Great investigation. Thanks for the waste of time.
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Josh
Posted: May 4th, 2008 at 2:28 am7Reply to this comment.Heiroglyphs or it didn’t happen.
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klaasand
Posted: May 4th, 2008 at 2:32 am8Reply to this comment.Biblical references record people of even older ages. And doctors admit that there is no physiological reason for ageing. Just because we haven’t seen it doesn’t mean it isn’t possible. Why are we so sure we know everything? Don’t be so self righteous as to dismiss the possibility of this occurring. People today dismiss healing the wah Jesus did because all they know is doctors yet many religions practice spiritual healing (not faith healing) of all forms of physical illness with great and consistent success.
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David Rochlin
Posted: May 4th, 2008 at 2:32 am9Reply to this comment.It is not biologically possible, not even with China’s famed herbal medicines.
Typically the truth behind this kind of story ends up being that some sort of political incentive makes it adventageous for a son to take the name of a father.
For example, if the military draft takes most of the seventeen year olds in a town, perhaps a family might let a boy steal the identity of his recently deceased father. Or, if inheritance taxes are high, then it might make eminent sense for a family to pass on the identity of the patriarch, from generation to generation, just to avoid taxes.
There was a myth that yogurt could extend life, because the old guys in a town in Soviet Georgia, allegedly lived to be well over a hundred, but that ended up being a draft evasion, situation. Yogurt is still popular, though, despite that the truth eventually came out… -
blarg
Posted: May 4th, 2008 at 2:35 am10Reply to this comment.my thoughts exactly. why not just link to the wiki entry.
waste
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George Dunhill
Posted: May 4th, 2008 at 3:00 am11Reply to this comment.Sounds like make believe to me!
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is this a joke
Posted: May 4th, 2008 at 3:06 am12Reply to this comment.Biblical references record people of even older ages. And doctors admit that there is no physiological reason for ageing. Just because we haven’t seen it doesn’t mean it isn’t possible. Why are we so sure we know everything? Don’t be so self righteous as to dismiss the possibility of this occurring. People today dismiss healing the wah Jesus did because all they know is doctors yet many religions practice spiritual healing (not faith healing) of all forms of physical illness with great and consistent success.
ROFLOLMAO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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spanky mc titflop
Posted: May 4th, 2008 at 3:16 am13Reply to this comment.he probably ate some tiger penis or rhino horn or whatever
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You've gotta be kidding me
Posted: May 4th, 2008 at 3:18 am14Reply to this comment.Biblical references record people of even older ages. And doctors admit that there is no physiological reason for ageing. Just because we haven’t seen it doesn’t mean it isn’t possible. Why are we so sure we know everything? Don’t be so self righteous as to dismiss the possibility of this occurring. People today dismiss healing the wah Jesus did because all they know is doctors yet many religions practice spiritual healing (not faith healing) of all forms of physical illness with great and consistent success.
…wow. Your proctologist just called. He found your head.
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S. Bernard
Posted: May 4th, 2008 at 3:23 am15Reply to this comment.Assuming that age at time of death can be plotted to come out in a bell-shaped curve, there will always be outliers. The vast majority will fall somewhere in the middle, but there will always be those that seemingly out of the ordinary.
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Josh
Posted: May 4th, 2008 at 3:34 am16Reply to this comment.klaasand: “And doctors admit that there is no physiological reason for ageing.”
You’re kidding, right? There is a whole field of medicine dedicated to aging, known as gerontology. Given that humans are incredibly complex organisms, there are many mechanisms whereby we age. For example, molecular plaque buildup can, over time, cause a deterioration of the body’s cells.
As for your comments about “spiritual healing,” show me some verifiable data and provide me with some reproducible experiments, and then maybe I’ll believe it.
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Alex
Posted: May 4th, 2008 at 3:41 am17Reply to this comment.he follows the way. or daoism. the words he spoke about sleeping like a dog are quotes from the tao te ching or one of the other taoist writings. its all about finding your true self ect. who knows mabe its real it’d be sick if it was
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respectfullyreasonable
Posted: May 4th, 2008 at 3:53 am18Reply to this comment.I’m pretty sure that the statistically supported possibility of a longevity occurrence like this is not impossible. Our species history is undeniably shapped by the influences of the Platos, Mozarts, Davincis and Einsteins to name a hackneyed few. I am sure however, that I am safe in regarding this as an ill-concieved journalistic ploy for limelight and an overt disclaimer to this blog’s street cred.
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PolarBear
Posted: May 4th, 2008 at 3:59 am19Reply to this comment.Biblical references record people of even older ages. And doctors admit that there is no physiological reason for ageing. Just because we haven’t seen it doesn’t mean it isn’t possible. Why are we so sure we know everything? Don’t be so self righteous as to dismiss the possibility of this occurring. People today dismiss healing the wah Jesus did because all they know is doctors yet many religions practice spiritual healing (not faith healing) of all forms of physical illness with great and consistent success.
OH you are KIDDING right?
You are citing the Bible as some kind of proof of scientific possibilities?
Wow. Just wow. I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.
Clearly you’ve been using some form of herbal medicine.
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addingtoidiocy
Posted: May 4th, 2008 at 5:16 am20Reply to this comment.I think it should be noted that we do, in fact, know why we age.
As we age, the protective coating around our chromosomes slowly begin to wear away. Each cell that we replicate in turn replicates a little bit less of the casing around the chromosome. The less of a sheath we have around the chromosomes, the less able the body is able to maintain itself.
The rate of degradation is not consistent in all species or even within the species. This is why some people look particularly aged at 60 and others look particularly youthful at 90.
Because clams, crabs, and lobsters to not suffer this effect, they could theoretically live forever. Take the quahog clam that was found in arctic waters about six months ago. They estimated it was over 400 years old. This is possible because each shell in these species is able to almost perfectly replicate itself.
There is actually a lot of research going on to see if there is a way to slow or stop the degradation of the chromosome sheathing.
It should be noted that this story is (and I use this word as loosely as I can) possible. However, the more likely story is passing on the name, and essentially life, of the patriarch to the next son.
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facepalm
Posted: May 4th, 2008 at 5:38 am21Reply to this comment.Biblical references record people of even older ages. And doctors admit that there is no physiological reason for ageing. Just because we haven’t seen it doesn’t mean it isn’t possible. Why are we so sure we know everything? Don’t be so self righteous as to dismiss the possibility of this occurring. People today dismiss healing the wah Jesus did because all they know is doctors yet many religions practice spiritual healing (not faith healing) of all forms of physical illness with great and consistent success.
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Mike
Posted: May 4th, 2008 at 5:42 am22Reply to this comment.True or not. that does not look like a youthful man in his 60’s.
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sdkdkdkddk
Posted: May 4th, 2008 at 6:04 am23Reply to this comment.what about carbon dating?
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Kal
Posted: May 4th, 2008 at 6:05 am24Reply to this comment.I don’t know about the supposed impossibility of this. The longest living dog lived to the ripe old age of 29, which is about 200 by human standards. The man living to 197, is not unfeasible. 256? A stretch, but why wouldn’t it be possible? I mean, some people die of “old age” in their 70s, some past 100. Perhaps he lived the type of live that resulted in less wear and tear on his vital organs. I mean, there are some biologists that say that if the body produced its own Vitamin C and Calcium, we could live to be 600, maybe the stuff he ate tied down the essential nutrients he needed to sustain a long life.
But, Occam’s razor, the old man was senile and had the same name as his dad.
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samim
Posted: May 4th, 2008 at 6:19 am25Reply to this comment.trees are known to get up to 10000 years old, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus_(tree)
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Neptune
Posted: May 4th, 2008 at 7:59 am26Reply to this comment.While I am not going to state whether I believe in this story or not, I think it is very naive to say this isn’t possible.
There are many medical mysteries out there. There are diseases that make a person age rapidly. I certainly see no reason why there couldn’t be a ‘disease’ that slows down the aging process tremendously, enough to live 250 years.
It is not unrealistic. Whether or not I believe in this particular story is irrelevant, but for anyone to say it is impossible is just plain ignorant.
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What about...
Posted: May 4th, 2008 at 9:24 am27Reply to this comment.Mr. Magorium? He was 432 years old. ;)
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Poster
Posted: May 4th, 2008 at 11:12 am28Reply to this comment.with all the shit in our food, the medics in the water, work stress, alcohol and nicotine and caffeine and so forth we don’t have to worry about garlic or anything. We just live our lives and don’t bury women.
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Wayhigh
Posted: May 4th, 2008 at 1:03 pm29Reply to this comment.Biblical references record people of even older ages.
You must not have heard about Wayhigh’s Law, part of which is as follows, “The first person to use the bible as an authoritative source in an argument instantly loses the argument.”
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rm1x
Posted: May 4th, 2008 at 1:18 pm30Reply to this comment.Good for him :)
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Aerdrie
Posted: May 4th, 2008 at 1:34 pm31Reply to this comment.what about carbon dating?
One thing wrong with this: Carbon dating uses the loss of Carbon-14 to determine the age of biological matter. C-14 is only lost after death and burial, so it would only tell you how long ago he died, not how old he was when he did.
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Dave G
Posted: May 4th, 2008 at 3:14 pm32Reply to this comment.Cut off one of his lages and count the rings.
Seriously, if someone could conceivably live that old, it may have a genetic base. How old did any of his children or other relatives live to?
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Dave G
Posted: May 4th, 2008 at 3:16 pm33Reply to this comment.Oops. That first line should read: Cut off one of his LEGS . . .
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jcindahouz
Posted: May 4th, 2008 at 3:30 pm34Reply to this comment.hard to believe.
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orly
Posted: May 4th, 2008 at 3:47 pm35Reply to this comment.Another victim of the Y2K bug (sort of): 0, 1, …, 255, DIVIDED BY ZER_
@S. Bernard, #15> no, “the age at time of death” is NOT a bell-shaped curve. Life expectancy is of a little more than 80 years for women in France or Japan for example, that means by definition that half of them die before their 80’s and half die older than 80; this curve is also a symmetrical one so the percentage of death happening right after birth should be reflected in the percentage of death at >100 yo. If this curve was to be a bell-shaped curve, we’d have 0,5% of death at the age of 160 as well as the existing 0,5% of infant mortality of these countries. Nobody in France or Japan lived longer than Jeanne Calment (122 years) so it’s a flat zero between 123 and infinity. It’s already quite flat after 105.
Infant mortality is 20% in Liberia and with a life expectancy of 42 years, obviously there isn’t 20% of Angola people living up to 83 and then suddenly dying at 84 ! So no, it’s not a bell-shaped curve but yes there are “outliers”.
The problem is we can only consider those who were born and died in country with reliable source of Vital records … -
durham4556
Posted: May 4th, 2008 at 3:48 pm36Reply to this comment.what a worthless article. there are no answers no nothing. I read the title and asked myself how is this possible then come to read the whole page. wasteing my time.
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herbalist
Posted: May 4th, 2008 at 3:48 pm37Reply to this comment.I think the secret definitely lies within the use of herbs. It is curious though, if the wives ate the same diet and took the same herbs…. maybe they didn’t?
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wnyjackson
Posted: May 4th, 2008 at 5:58 pm38Reply to this comment.Not possible. It says he had 23 wives! I am convinced No man can outlive 23 wives!
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David
Posted: May 4th, 2008 at 6:04 pm39Reply to this comment.Good God! As if the 80 year old Chinese man driving 20mph in the fast lane with his blinker on wasn’t bad enough!
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Tim
Posted: May 4th, 2008 at 7:15 pm40Reply to this comment.For all those right brainers, who think they blog something of value, ask yourself this question, “Why were plants and animals so much larger in the past?” Even 15,000 years ago, giant bears, giant elk, giant sloth, giant Mammoth, and yes even giant men. Where do think this is coming from? Go back even further, dragon fly 3 feet long, conifers 1000 feet tall, look at the fossil records! If you don’t believe in life force energies I suggest you take a second look at history, and then ask yourself how these (lower life forms) were able to out perform us? The answers are hidden in plain site, right under your noses, or perhaps over your head, every day. You think stories sre longevity are just fables? Think again. Just a suggestion, perhaps you should wake up from your slumber party.
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MrMensa
Posted: May 4th, 2008 at 8:10 pm41Reply to this comment.There is a rare condition that causes a person to age at an accelerated rate, called progeria.
If that condition exists, why not a rare condition that acts in the opposite direction, or life extending,rather than life shortening.
If there are 6 billion people alive today, who’s to say that one or more of them may not radically extend their life span(s) -
Myspace Quiz
Posted: May 4th, 2008 at 8:24 pm42Reply to this comment.I think that he would have gotten more credibility if this was more real this sounds like a lochnessy monsterish type of deal.
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Jack
Posted: May 4th, 2008 at 9:08 pm43Reply to this comment.For all those right brainers, who think they blog something of value, ask yourself this question, “Why were plants and animals so much larger in the past?” Even 15,000 years ago, giant bears, giant elk, giant sloth, giant Mammoth, and yes even giant men. Where do think this is coming from? Go back even further, dragon fly 3 feet long, conifers 1000 feet tall, look at the fossil records! If you don’t believe in life force energies I suggest you take a second look at history, and then ask yourself how these (lower life forms) were able to out perform us? The answers are hidden in plain site, right under your noses, or perhaps over your head, every day. You think stories sre longevity are just fables? Think again. Just a suggestion, perhaps you should wake up from your slumber party.
Wow, Tim. You are such a douche. Life force energies?! Dumb dumb dumb. Plenty of scientifically plausible hypotheses with varying degrees of evidence for your claims without having to invoke woo-woo and fairy dust. For example, 3 foot dragon flies lived in an epoch in which there was demonstrably more oxygen in the atmosphere.
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Biggus Dickus
Posted: May 4th, 2008 at 9:55 pm44Reply to this comment.I don’t know what you people are complaining about. This happens all the time. In fact, this man died fairly young. I myself am 328 years old and don’t look a day over fourty
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Tim
Posted: May 4th, 2008 at 10:14 pm45Reply to this comment.oxygen? Well if that were the case don’t you think every poultry farmer and hot house owner in the states wouldn’t be raising their stock in a pure Oxygen emviroment, to double or tripple their yield. Your’re going to have think a little deeper than that, my friend. How do the cells communicate? What turns on and off aging genes. Why are they even an aspect of genome?
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youdumbass
Posted: May 4th, 2008 at 10:18 pm46Reply to this comment.<blockquote cite=”For all those right brainers, who think they blog something of value, ask yourself this question, “Why were plants and animals so much larger in the past?” Even 15,000 years ago, giant bears, giant elk, giant sloth, giant Mammoth, and yes even giant men. Where do think this is coming from? Go back even further, dragon fly 3 feet long, conifers 1000 feet tall, look at the fossil records! If you don’t believe in life force energies I suggest you take a second look at history, and then ask yourself how these (lower life forms) were able to out perform us? The answers are hidden in plain site, right under your noses, or perhaps over your head, every day. You think stories sre longevity are just fables? Think again. Just a suggestion, perhaps you should wake up from your slumber party.”
Idiotic. Did I miss the paragraph in the article that mentioned the chinese dude was 20 feet tall? Quit talking out your ass, this has nothing to do with anything. Besides, if I recall correctly, these large creatures existed thousands of years ago, not in the 1700’s AND their life span was shorter than their smaller decendents. WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THIS IS A WORTHLESS ATTEMPT TO JUSTIFY ANYTHING. -
Full Breath
Posted: May 4th, 2008 at 11:58 pm47Reply to this comment.There are Yogis in India who have lived for over 300 years. Some of them have addresses and you can go to visit them.
Leonard Orr, my teacher, and the ‘father’ of Rebirthing, has some of their contact info. He has visited some of them, notably Babaji, the Yogi-Christ of India.
For a good intro to the idea of Physical Immortality, please watch Leonard’s video on You Tube….. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zT36RVkmj50
(”Death Is A ‘Grave’ Mistake”….Leonard Orr)
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Jim Strouse
Posted: May 5th, 2008 at 12:28 am48Reply to this comment.Spectacular claims require spectacular proof. Exaggerated lifespans are a trademark of human cultures. An authentic 100 year lifespan is indeed a rarity, but to claim 200 unsubstantiated years is an insult to the centenarian community.
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Billy Bee
Posted: May 5th, 2008 at 12:40 am49Reply to this comment.Thomas Parr supposedly lived 152 years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Parr
I agree with the skeptics, 252 is impossible in the 21st century, I don’t think you past 50 if you constantly eat at McDonald’s and take prescription drugs.
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Mason McManus
Posted: May 5th, 2008 at 1:54 am50Reply to this comment.Biblical references record people of even older ages.
You must not have heard about Wayhigh’s Law, part of which is as follows, “The first person to use the bible as an authoritative source in an argument instantly loses the argument.”
I’m sorry, but may I point out the law of @$$hole-ery. “The first person to say that a person instantly loses an argument by quoting a Bible gets a round house kick to the face by Chuck Norris, Bruce Lee beating them with their own spine, and a piece of lemon squirted in their eye. This practice may go past the first said person.”
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Lazarus
Posted: May 5th, 2008 at 2:06 am51Reply to this comment.If I told you I was eleventy hundred and twelve would you believe me?
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Chuck Norris
Posted: May 5th, 2008 at 2:46 am52Reply to this comment.Biblical references record people of even older ages.
You must not have heard about Wayhigh’s Law, part of which is as follows, “The first person to use the bible as an authoritative source in an argument instantly loses the argument.”
I’m sorry, but may I point out the law of @$$hole-ery. “The first person to say that a person instantly loses an argument by quoting a Bible gets a round house kick to the face by Chuck Norris, Bruce Lee beating them with their own spine, and a piece of lemon squirted in their eye. This practice may go past the first said person.”
Well said.
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Tom
Posted: May 5th, 2008 at 3:13 am53Reply to this comment.He is dead now, so I guess the world is back on track. I do have to wonder why he married 23 wives…didn’t he learn after the first one?
That means 23 mother-in-laws…wouldn’t that kill you faster. Jeeze, 23 wives and putting up with them for 256 years? That poor guy couldn’t catch a break!
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Josh Madsen
Posted: May 5th, 2008 at 3:46 am54Reply to this comment.Why dont they dig him up and carbon date his bones?
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feenix13
Posted: May 5th, 2008 at 4:02 am55Reply to this comment.What’s to say that people aren’t capable of living for more that 120/130 years. Humans have so many other things that kill them on a regular basis. If someone that had the potential to live longer died in a car accident the world would never know what the potential was. Old age used to be 40 back in the day, what would THEN think of people NOW, working and being vibrant members of society until their 70 and older. Just food for thought.
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John, Sartell, MN, USA
Posted: May 5th, 2008 at 4:10 am56Reply to this comment.Well, before we start looking for Robert Anson Heinlein’s fictional Lazarus Long (aka Woodrow Wilson Smith, Et Al.)Who appeared in “Methusila’s Children”, “Time Enough for Love”, “To Sail Beyond the Sunset”, Natural death apears to occour at a rate of 50% of a population for each eight or nine years of life beyond a certain age with women entering this phase about eight or nine years older than men (a result of having two X chromosones).
Thus the Chinaman has a one in sixteen million chance of surviving to such an age if he reaches the age of 64. At that time few survived to age 64.
My pet theory on Progeria: It might be a Growth Hormone defiency, treatable with Human Groth Hormone produced by gene enginered bacteria. Perhaps the Chinaman had a pituitary conditiond that kept his Groth Hormone levels high, but not high enough to cause Acromeglia (and make him look like Ted ‘Lurch’ Cassidy, or “Jaws” in the James Bond movies.
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Bob
Posted: May 5th, 2008 at 4:22 am57Reply to this comment.oxygen? Well if that were the case don’t you think every poultry farmer and hot house owner in the states wouldn’t be raising their stock in a pure Oxygen emviroment, to double or tripple their yield. Your’re going to have think a little deeper than that, my friend. How do the cells communicate? What turns on and off aging genes. Why are they even an aspect of genome?Where do the plants get their energy, and we indirectly through them?
To answer your questions in order Cells communicate by using hormones. Any genes are turned on and off by transcription factors. “Aging genes” get destroyed by the bodies immune system mainly by protien degradition or in the worst cases by the bodies anti cancer genes.
Plants get their energy from the same source that we do. Cellular respiration takes place in plants the same way it does in humans. What plants produce themselves is the sugars that are broken down in cellular respiration. -
Wycked Knight
Posted: May 5th, 2008 at 4:23 am58Reply to this comment.i have heard a simular story relating to a Englishman almost to simular in fact. i have to feel this is either a hoax or just a old wives tail. in the englishmans story he body was pure from not eating highly seasoned foods, and died after eating dinner with the kind at the time in which the food was to heavily seasoned.
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=Thomas Haberthaler
Posted: May 5th, 2008 at 4:31 am59Reply to this comment.I can easily believe these things where many others seem to be unwilling or unable to. I once read a book when I was a child that taught me that the only reason pepole die, is because they believe they will. I was pleased to read and learn about count St. Germain, now this. I believe that “What a man thinketh upon, he becomes.” I think I’m becoming healthier every day, stronger every day and happier every day! I’m not becoming older, I’m becoming better. I believe I’m becoming wiser, and richer and more adept, with every tick of the closk. and let me tell you, I feel good!
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BILLYBOB
Posted: May 5th, 2008 at 4:34 am60Reply to this comment.“And doctors admit that there is no physiological reason for ageing” My wife and me is homeschooling our 9 kids to be doctors. in the “Evilgelical Book of Medicine” it says the reason for ageing is cuz man strays from the WORD. seems this chinese guy wasn’t a demoncrat
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Tom Haberthaler
Posted: May 5th, 2008 at 4:44 am61Reply to this comment.He reminds me in that picture of Sai Baba. I’m presently taking fish oil, niacin, mens vitamins (I wont mention the brand name here) ginsing and garlic pills and the world is absolutely mine. I can outwork any two people I know, I feel incredibly good all the time and nobody that I tell that I’m 47 can believe that I’m actually 47. But it’s true, I was born in October of 1960…I drink cranbery juice from time to time and do a lot of gardening. I believe that gardening is a key to longevity as well as these other things that I’ve mentioned. That fresh air and sunshine.
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alientro
Posted: May 5th, 2008 at 5:17 am62Reply to this comment.For all those right brainers, who think they blog something of value, ask yourself this question, “Why were plants and animals so much larger in the past?” Even 15,000 years ago, giant bears, giant elk, giant sloth, giant Mammoth, and yes even giant men. Where do think this is coming from? Go back even further, dragon fly 3 feet long, conifers 1000 feet tall, look at the fossil records! If you don’t believe in life force energies I suggest you take a second look at history, and then ask yourself how these (lower life forms) were able to out perform us? The answers are hidden in plain site, right under your noses, or perhaps over your head, every day. You think stories sre longevity are just fables? Think again. Just a suggestion, perhaps you should wake up from your slumber party.
There is conclusive evidence that the Oxygen levels as far back as 200 million years ago was as high as 50%. Today O2 levels are around 19% and the rest is nitrogen and other gasses. That is the reasoning behind the large species that roamed the earth. O2 levels for some reason around 30k years ago plummeted from 30% to 20%. A sudden change in the O2 levels could account for species becoming smaller and living longer. Most of the oxygen we breathe in, has what’s called a free radical. This is when only one of the oxygen molecules bind with carbon and leave a free oxygen atom floating around or even binding with another oxygen to make O3. These free radicals are like tiny knives that mutate and destroy DNA / RNA and speed up the aging process. This is where anti-oxidants come in to play.
This relates to this article because this man was a herbal genius that probably knew of the properties found in antioxidants. I am skeptical on his claimed age but I do believe he probably made it to over 150 years old. -
tom
Posted: May 5th, 2008 at 5:29 am63Reply to this comment.“There are Yogis in India who have lived for over 300 years. Some of them have addresses and you can go to visit them.”
And it must be true because an internet guy said that an Indian guy said it was true, and if you ask him he will tell you that he’s correct.
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John V
Posted: May 5th, 2008 at 5:46 am64Reply to this comment.I can see where poor records and no government number system can cause the government to believe 3 different people are the same person over the course of 2 centuries. Probably burocracy going amuck is the best reason and of course 3 different people played along for the ride possibly with the same name.
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tuxb
Posted: May 5th, 2008 at 9:12 am65Reply to this comment.Sometimes weird things happen in humans. Progeria causes people to die of old age by about 13. I remember reading a story about a 2-year-old “bodybuilder”; he just had a condition that gave him a fantastic metabolism.
If people can die of old age in 1/6th the usual time, the hyper-rare case of someone living double also seems possible.
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greggo
Posted: May 5th, 2008 at 2:20 pm66Reply to this comment.Remember, these are the people who think powdered rhino horn is viagra. Bullshiat.
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SpamBot
Posted: May 5th, 2008 at 2:35 pm67Reply to this comment.er … isn’t the simplest explanation that he was born in 1836 not 1736
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Andrew
Posted: May 5th, 2008 at 5:09 pm68Reply to this comment.Three words:
“Dread Pirate Roberts”Same name, many men.
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GeekGoddess
Posted: May 5th, 2008 at 5:10 pm69Reply to this comment.I think the secret definitely lies within the use of herbs. It is curious though, if the wives ate the same diet and took the same herbs…. maybe they didn’t?
It didn’t say why the wives died. Remember that child birth is not a safe and easy process, especially prior to the advent of modern medicine. Many women died due to complications with pregnancy and birth. Additionally, women took on riskier aspects of managing the household that were more likely to result in some kind of physical harm (cook fires, etc.). Li Ching-Yun gathered and sold herbs for a living and reputedly had 6-inch nails on his right hand… which signified that he did not have to do much physical labor.
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me
Posted: May 5th, 2008 at 5:38 pm70Reply to this comment.look at Yoda he was like 800 or 900 years old. may the farce be with yew.btw was prolly son of a son of a son. not saying it couldn’t happen just prolly didn’t
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tom
Posted: May 5th, 2008 at 8:03 pm71Reply to this comment.The real secret to living a long time is to be a total prick. We all know the cool people go early.
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brian
Posted: May 5th, 2008 at 8:19 pm72Reply to this comment.Dig him up, run some tests. See what the science will show.
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BillyBob
Posted: May 5th, 2008 at 11:49 pm73Reply to this comment.Biblical references record people of even older ages. And doctors admit that there is no physiological reason for ageing.
We are homeschooling our 9 kids to be doctors and in the “Evilgelical Book of Medicine” it says the ageing is because of man’s failure to follow the WORD. so the old chinese guy must not have been a demoncrat -
Fred Shaffner
Posted: May 5th, 2008 at 11:56 pm74Reply to this comment.This story simply is not true. I subscribe to both Time and The New York Times online archives and have researched both for this man’s obituary. It does NOT exist in either archive. No one could live to be nearly this old. This is a story that can not be proven… ever. There is not enough evidence to prove it. This may be the story of one man and several of his descendants who chose to take on his identity over the course of several generations. With the lack of birth and death documentation in the past 200 years, these claims can’t be corroborated. Choose to believe this far-fetched stuff if you want. Elvis is still alive and the moon landings were a hoax. This is the stuff of urban legend and nothing more.
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dopplerthesexybeast
Posted: May 6th, 2008 at 12:30 am75Reply to this comment.oxygen? Well if that were the case don’t you think every poultry farmer and hot house owner in the states wouldn’t be raising their stock in a pure Oxygen emviroment, to double or tripple their yield. Your’re going to have think a little deeper than that, my friend. How do the cells communicate? What turns on and off aging genes. Why are they even an aspect of genome?
Where do the plants get their energy, and we indirectly through them?Wow… Wow… There are not words for this stupidity. Raising poultry in a 100% oxygen environment would NOT triple or quadruple the output because the chickens would first have to ADAPT through NATURAL SELECTION after many generations to be able to process the oxygen. The chickens as they are have evolved to only be able to process so much oxygen.
The reason our dragonflies are smaller is because the environment DID in fact lose oxygen, but gradually. As more oxygen was lost, the dragonflies requiring more weren’t able to pass on their genes–they DIED. The ones requiring less lived, reproduced, and spiralled through the gradual process that has left us with the tiny ones we now know.
Cells communicate through molecular, ionic, enzymatic, etc. hormones; genes are turned “on” and “off” by whether or not they are recessive, dominant, or in the presence of a substance that activates them; plants get their energy from glucose via photosynthesis, and when we eat them, we get the starches.
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BF
Posted: May 6th, 2008 at 12:33 am76Reply to this comment.Actually, there are articles on him from the Times and Time. They are listed in the sources above. Here’s the NY Times one: http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=FA0915FE3E5C16738DDDAF0894DD405B838FF1D3
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ravenscawl
Posted: May 6th, 2008 at 6:09 am77Reply to this comment.It is not uncommon through out some of the more remote regions in
Europe and Asia for these claims to exist. My own great-great grandmother was one such.Doctors hear used to joke that when she died they would have to do a bone-age. -
Skeptic
Posted: May 6th, 2008 at 8:58 am78Reply to this comment.I don’t mean to offend anyone, especially with the approaching olympics and all, but the Chinese government is an evil, sociopathic, lying machine.
The Chinese government has a known history of manipulating & lying about scientific data, as well as commiting human rights atrocities, all in the name of futhering their political efforts.This story first surfaced in the 1960’s, shortly after China opened its doors to Nixon and the US. However, it was proven shortly afterwards to be nothing more than state sponsored propaganda, to promote the Chinese agenda.
Some US researchers were genuinely interested in the possibility of an “Ancient Chinese Secret” for increasing longevity but what they found, only humiliated the Chinese government.Don’t ask me why but the Chinese are retarded that way. I’ve been to China and have a fairly good grasp of their culture. In some ways, it’s beautiful and in other ways, its deeply psychotic and disconected from what the western world considers “reality”.
With plenty of exceptions, the Chinese are the sickest population in Asia. It’s something of a cultural title that they sought to change with a few government constructed stories…much like the Bush administrations fake news correspondence, ala the Jessica Lynch lie….
So before everyone gets pumped up on vitamins, chinese herbs and other great life enhancers, you need to consider the obvious, which is/was nothing but a perpetrated lie. If my memory serves me, the guy was like 89 years old…a far cry from 256!!!
Much of Asia/China is still steeped in folk traditions, superstition and magical thinking. These things aren’t necessarily bad per’se. But they often get in the way of clear thinking. Chinese Medicine is great stuff but it won’t violate the rules of biology. As far as we “currently” know, 256 violates the rules of biology. It still remains to be seen, but as they say, extrodinary claims require extrodinary evidence.
Cheers.
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Chris | Martial Development
Posted: May 11th, 2008 at 5:14 am80Reply to this comment.http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/li-ching-yuen-the-amazing-250-year-old-man/
And if you think that is amazing, check this out:
http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/yogi-stops-heart-for-six-weeks/
I have more, but I’ll stop there.

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