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Ali S. (not verified) says:

Fascinating stuff! Thanks.

brian w (not verified) says:

does this calendar end on Dec 22, 2012 like the Mayan calendar?
brian

ArchaologyBuff (not verified) says:

Really biased language. The use of the masculine "priest" drives attention away from the accepted likelyhood that these were developed by women, and if used as a teaching device for "teens and children" they were likely teaching their daughters and granddaughters the cycles and secrets that would preserve their health and guide the course of their life.

Is it less scientific then? Less about physics and science? No educated person thinks so. But the evidence of the hand size in cave paintings, and other items indicates that this science was rooted in easily observed reality, most easily observed by the women of the "clan."

Science begins at home.

Dr. Helen Benigni (not verified) says:

I have written a book entitled "The Goddess and the Bull" that traces goddess and the bull through the precessional cycles of the moon from the Paloelithic to the end of the Iron Age. My first book is "The Myth of the Year" that traces the constellations and their deities from the Neolithic to the end of the Iron Age. I work with a group of scholars who translated the Coligny calendar which is based on the Neolithic astronomer priestesses and their belief system.

We are now transcribing the Venus calendar to add to the lunar-solar and constellations of the ancients with the corresponding mythology.

Would you like to help? Helen

Razna (not verified) says:

It should be noted that Marschack's hypothesis of Pleistocene lunar calendars is not universally accepted. For example, microscopic analysis of some of the same artifacts by other scholars (Francesco d'Errico for one) yields different counts of marks, experimental replication of such artifacts suggests other reasons for the distinctions among marks, and there is reason to suspect that all the marks were made at one time, rather than being a sort of tally system of time.

The identification of Orion as a constellation by Rappenglueck is even less commonly accepted. For one thing, nobody had a sword in the Stone Age. It wasn't possible to make one until metallurgy was developed. So why identify a sword hanging between his feet in such early times? Even the Babylonians, far later in time, identified the constellations differently than did the historical Greeks. For instance, what we know as the Big Bear, the Babylonians knew as the Wagon. It's really stretching it to assume that people in the Old Stone Age were seeing precisely the same things we are today in the stars.

Until agriculture, there was little reason to have such precise calendars. One needs to know when to plant seeds all right. One doesn't need to know when the wild animals are there. They're right there. It is much the same with religion. Priesthoods (and priests or priestesses) are an artifact of agricultural societies, not foraging (i.e., hunting and gathering) economies. Shamanism is far more common, if not universal, for the foraging way of life. Those animals depicted on cave walls may be totemic ancestors, spirit guides, or something else entirely. It is most unlikely that they involved mathematically advanced calendrical computations. Ethnography suggests otherwise.

Bennett (author) (not verified) says:

To ArcheologyBuff and others who might wish to infer the author's position about the role of women in early myth, ceremony and ritual, perhaps visit this page - http://ancienthistory.ahrtp.com/eBooks/eBooks.html - and then wait 30 seconds before fingers hit the keyboard ...

To Razna - Yes Marshak's work has not achieved universal acceptance, nor have Rappengluck interpretations, there is much work and thinking to be done. Terminology will forever bedevil us all. It has become common in anthropology to refer to the ritual leaders in tribal/clan societies as 'priests', albeit the I wish the term had been restricted to the religious leaders in hieratic, aristocratic, class structured societies. Yes shamanism and totemic structures are ubiquitous in tribal/clan, hunter/gather societies in which foraging is but one food procurement activity.

Certainly Upper Paleolithic hunters would not carry a sword forged from metal ores, no one would ever assume so, there was no metallurgy in any Paleolithic Culture. But other weapons and ritual objects were present and might be carried at the waist: wood dagger, hardwood club, short fire hardened, wood spear; short atlatl etc. Perhaps qualifying adjectives before the word 'sword' would have been useful, and in retrospect I would name a different, and obviously wooden object. A ritual, wooden 'sword/dagger' would be mythically 'charged' for ceremonial use. Note that Orion carries a wooden club in the illustration chosen for the article. As to the need for a precise calender, there was a need in the Upper Paleolithic, albeit not a life and death matter in many years. The more precise the calendric notation and prediction for migration of megafauna, the more successful the next hunt is likely to be.

As noted in the article, there are many events in the calendar of human life that would benefit from recording as time factored, and therefore somewhat predictable. Yes, this is a strong circumstantial argument by analogy. Beyond practicalities is the inherent nature of creative play by the 'big brain', which often discovers magnificent things in the absence of a planned search for a practical solution to the problem of the month. Animal art on cave walls can have several, simultaneous identities: totemic animals for the clan; and also symbolic pictographs within an early astronomical notation that was the private purvue of a few damn smart folks who were compelled to think on such matters. .. compelled perhaps for no other reason than their individual genius . .the practical rationale might come afterwards.

This article implies that a small, intellectual elite - read a few damn smart men and women - within a tribal, shamanistic society might concern themselves intensely with the stars, sun, moon, visible planets, comets, meteors and constellations. The message of the Heavens would be both mythopoetic, and practical, the latter was applied to creation of solar and lunar calendars. Further writing will explore this proposal.