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	<title>Comments on: 11 Green Technologies That Vanished Like a Thief in The Night</title>
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		<title>By: Hermine Berryhill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hermine Berryhill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a nice post and really attention-grabbing stuff. I guess from the perspective of what you&#039;re saying here we have a tendency to can all find one thing to take off from this and in terms of a education curve we have a tendency should all be able to require something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a nice post and really attention-grabbing stuff. I guess from the perspective of what you&#8217;re saying here we have a tendency to can all find one thing to take off from this and in terms of a education curve we have a tendency should all be able to require something.</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uncle B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of the most promising, bio-diesel from Algae for example will be buried alive, along with the EV-1&#039;s secret batteries, by Chevron and the gas engine and transmission builders, who are trying to extract every cent from their current investments, as they, good servants that they are, have promised their shareholder masters, since life in corporate America is such - only to re-surface in the Chinese knock off of the Chev &quot;Volt&quot; now driving on the streets of Shanghai, and sold by contract to Israel right under GM&#039;s greedy nose! SEE:http://www.cleantech.com/news/3983/chinas-byd-sells-first-mass-produced-plug-cars

Check Out Bio-Diesel: http://www.itsgood4.us/biodiesel.htm
Then, check out what can be done with bio-diesel, with today&#039;s back-yard technologies:http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/12/04/transportation-tuesday-neil-youngs-classic-hybrid/
Some highly suppressed and totally ignored technologies that can save on power usage, SEE:
This fridge and a solar model at           http://www.geekologie.com/2008/08/zero_carbon_footprint_the_sola.php 
Einstein Fridge - http://www.gomestic.com/Consumer-Information/Eco-Fridge-That-Uses-Zero-Electricity.285375
http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/adam_grosser_and_his_sustainable_fridge.html

As for H2 transports, take the load off of the transport trucks and highways by using H2 transporters for freight! Inter-city, on cables, fast automatic transfer of goods only, for very little, not even gas tax for highways! Better than rail, faster, cleaner and possible all electric! I can see a place for this, not a totally new all inclusive system, but a niche where it will fit very well! Next will be wind power, all along the coasts, fission free, waste free, clean, perpetual, or renewable, if you prefer, power - low value, intermittent power that ebbs and flows with nature, just what we need for charging our batteries for our electric cars! Tidal power does the same, Likewise Solar Power in some cloudy areas, wave power on shorelines, bio-gas from sewage and offal, bio-mass fuel gases - cheap clean replacement for some of the oil we now use. Geothermal Power, on the other hand is quite dependable , equaling nuclear in its ability to supply, but is clean with no fissioning waste products to poison us, hence better. A good number of enthusiastic attempts at solutions will go by the way-side, or become fully used at a later date, but the few winners we do develop will save our butts from the cold at night, and help fill our tummies too! I love it! keep the stuff coming, wacko today may be salvation tomorrow, Who knows!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of the most promising, bio-diesel from Algae for example will be buried alive, along with the EV-1&#8217;s secret batteries, by Chevron and the gas engine and transmission builders, who are trying to extract every cent from their current investments, as they, good servants that they are, have promised their shareholder masters, since life in corporate America is such &#8211; only to re-surface in the Chinese knock off of the Chev &#8220;Volt&#8221; now driving on the streets of Shanghai, and sold by contract to Israel right under GM&#8217;s greedy nose! SEE:http://www.cleantech.com/news/3983/chinas-byd-sells-first-mass-produced-plug-cars</p>
<p>Check Out Bio-Diesel: <a href="http://www.itsgood4.us/biodiesel.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.itsgood4.us/biodiesel.htm</a><br />
Then, check out what can be done with bio-diesel, with today&#8217;s back-yard technologies:http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/12/04/transportation-tuesday-neil-youngs-classic-hybrid/<br />
Some highly suppressed and totally ignored technologies that can save on power usage, SEE:<br />
This fridge and a solar model at           <a href="http://www.geekologie.com/2008/08/zero_carbon_footprint_the_sola.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.geekologie.com/2008/08/zero_carbon_footprint_the_sola.php</a><br />
Einstein Fridge &#8211; <a href="http://www.gomestic.com/Consumer-Information/Eco-Fridge-That-Uses-Zero-Electricity.285375" rel="nofollow">http://www.gomestic.com/Consumer-Information/Eco-Fridge-That-Uses-Zero-Electricity.285375</a><br />
<a href="http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/adam_grosser_and_his_sustainable_fridge.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/adam_grosser_and_his_sustainable_fridge.html</a></p>
<p>As for H2 transports, take the load off of the transport trucks and highways by using H2 transporters for freight! Inter-city, on cables, fast automatic transfer of goods only, for very little, not even gas tax for highways! Better than rail, faster, cleaner and possible all electric! I can see a place for this, not a totally new all inclusive system, but a niche where it will fit very well! Next will be wind power, all along the coasts, fission free, waste free, clean, perpetual, or renewable, if you prefer, power &#8211; low value, intermittent power that ebbs and flows with nature, just what we need for charging our batteries for our electric cars! Tidal power does the same, Likewise Solar Power in some cloudy areas, wave power on shorelines, bio-gas from sewage and offal, bio-mass fuel gases &#8211; cheap clean replacement for some of the oil we now use. Geothermal Power, on the other hand is quite dependable , equaling nuclear in its ability to supply, but is clean with no fissioning waste products to poison us, hence better. A good number of enthusiastic attempts at solutions will go by the way-side, or become fully used at a later date, but the few winners we do develop will save our butts from the cold at night, and help fill our tummies too! I love it! keep the stuff coming, wacko today may be salvation tomorrow, Who knows!</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 18:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of these products seem cool (the Nokia phone), but others seem a bit wacky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of these products seem cool (the Nokia phone), but others seem a bit wacky.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t care if it&#039;s helium or hydrogen as long as I get to ride one before I die. If it lands safely too, rather than fall flaming out of the sky, so much the better. 

As for the solar clothing, you can buy laptop bags and the like. Only they cost as much as the laptop, and can only actually charge your phone anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t care if it&#8217;s helium or hydrogen as long as I get to ride one before I die. If it lands safely too, rather than fall flaming out of the sky, so much the better. </p>
<p>As for the solar clothing, you can buy laptop bags and the like. Only they cost as much as the laptop, and can only actually charge your phone anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Harald Korneliussen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harald Korneliussen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 19:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t heard anyone talking about hydrogen-filled zeppelins, and for good reasons. You get almost as much lift from helium, which isn&#039;t flammable. Zeppelin NT does commercial flights on helium, but they&#039;re only for sightseeing. I&#039;m sure if they could, the folks behind Zeppelin NT would replace every jet on earth... but we&#039;re not there yet, either in production capacity or fuel prices. Why don&#039;t you give them some credit for what they HAVE achieved?

Also, these Zeps leak about 1% per year. Even if they were filled with hydrogen, the carbon emissions from that would be insignificant in the big picture (far smaller than the emissions from the Zep&#039;s engines)

Some Zeppelin ventures were investor traps (notably CargoLifter), but the less attention that kind get, the better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t heard anyone talking about hydrogen-filled zeppelins, and for good reasons. You get almost as much lift from helium, which isn&#8217;t flammable. Zeppelin NT does commercial flights on helium, but they&#8217;re only for sightseeing. I&#8217;m sure if they could, the folks behind Zeppelin NT would replace every jet on earth&#8230; but we&#8217;re not there yet, either in production capacity or fuel prices. Why don&#8217;t you give them some credit for what they HAVE achieved?</p>
<p>Also, these Zeps leak about 1% per year. Even if they were filled with hydrogen, the carbon emissions from that would be insignificant in the big picture (far smaller than the emissions from the Zep&#8217;s engines)</p>
<p>Some Zeppelin ventures were investor traps (notably CargoLifter), but the less attention that kind get, the better.</p>
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		<title>By: Jas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah it&#039;s really odd how no-one listens to conspiracy nutjobs isn&#039;t it??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah it&#8217;s really odd how no-one listens to conspiracy nutjobs isn&#8217;t it??</p>
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		<title>By: noyfb</title>
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		<dc:creator>noyfb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Hydrogen has more lift than Helium. Hydrogen can be produced for free. Its not as flammable as natural gas, and the Hindenburg caught fire because of the flammable paint on it and the missing arch dampener. But its obvious the Hyndenburg was a setup used to make Hydrogen look bad so the only Helium mine which is in the US could keep selling it. Sort of like how 9/11 was a set up to attack Iraq and now Iran. But I wouldn&#039;t expect sheeple to believe this. They only listen to corporate backed media propaganda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Hydrogen has more lift than Helium. Hydrogen can be produced for free. Its not as flammable as natural gas, and the Hindenburg caught fire because of the flammable paint on it and the missing arch dampener. But its obvious the Hyndenburg was a setup used to make Hydrogen look bad so the only Helium mine which is in the US could keep selling it. Sort of like how 9/11 was a set up to attack Iraq and now Iran. But I wouldn&#8217;t expect sheeple to believe this. They only listen to corporate backed media propaganda.</p>
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		<title>By: jason armstrong</title>
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		<dc:creator>jason armstrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you know that the average human being emits roughly 900 grams of Carbon dioxide a day? Scary, huh? I tried not breathing to stop the carbon, but I passed out. Any advice?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you know that the average human being emits roughly 900 grams of Carbon dioxide a day? Scary, huh? I tried not breathing to stop the carbon, but I passed out. Any advice?</p>
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		<title>By: noodie</title>
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		<dc:creator>noodie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 04:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why the fuck would anyone make a zepplin filled with hydrogen and not helium? doesn&#039;t anyone remember the hindenburg?
The only reason it was filled with hydrogen was because helium was to hard to obtain during wartime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why the fuck would anyone make a zepplin filled with hydrogen and not helium? doesn&#8217;t anyone remember the hindenburg?<br />
The only reason it was filled with hydrogen was because helium was to hard to obtain during wartime.</p>
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